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our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to congratulate gabby's friend jeff lake on new role as arizona's junior senator. as you know, our family has been immeasurableably affected by gun violence. gabby's gift for speech is a distant gg? news breaks to yet another tragic shooting. after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook elementary, we said this time must be different. something needs to be done. we're simply two reasonable americans who have said enough. on january 8th of 2011, a young man walked up to gabby at her constitue
our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to...
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our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to congratulate gabby's friend jeff lake on new role as arizona's junior senator. as you know, our family has been immeasurableably affected by gun violence. gabby's gift for speech is a distant memory. she struggles to walk and partially blind. a year ago she left the job she loved, serving the people of arizona. but in the past two years, we have watched gabby's determination and spirit and intel lekt conquer her disabilities. we're speaking to you today as americans. we're a lot like many fellow citizens following this debate about g
our first witness is mark kelly. he's -- our first witness is mark can kelly, retired astronaut and co-founded americans for potential solutions. thsz an advocacy that promotes to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership, with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. please go ahead, sir. >> thank you chairman leahy and ranking member grassry for inviting me today. i look forward to an instructive dialogue with your committeeant want to take the opportunity to...
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our first witness is mark kelly. he is a, first witness is mark kelly. he is a retired astronaut in u.s. navy captain. captain kelly recently cofounded americans for responsible solutions. this is an advocacy group that promotes solutions to prevent gun violence, and protect responsible gun ownership. did it with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. so, captain kelly, please go ahead, sir. >> thank you, chairman leahy and ranking member grassley for inviting me here today ? . >> we are simply two reasonable americans who have said, enough. on january 8th of 2011 a young man walked up to gabby at her constituent event in tucson, leveled his gun and shot her through the head. he then turned down the line and continued firing. in 15 seconds he emptied his magazine. it contained 33 bullets and there were 33 wounds. as the shooter attempted to reload he fumbled. a woman grabbed the next magazine, and others restrained him. gabby was the first victim. christina taylor green, nine years old, born on 9-11-2001 was shot with the 13th bullet or after
our first witness is mark kelly. he is a, first witness is mark kelly. he is a retired astronaut in u.s. navy captain. captain kelly recently cofounded americans for responsible solutions. this is an advocacy group that promotes solutions to prevent gun violence, and protect responsible gun ownership. did it with his wife, former congresswoman gabrielle giffords. so, captain kelly, please go ahead, sir. >> thank you, chairman leahy and ranking member grassley for inviting me here today ?...
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gabby gifford's husband, mark kelly, is also expected to testify at the hearing. >>> in trenton, new jersey, authorities are touting the haul of weapons now off the streets thanks to a gun buyback program, bringing in 2600 hand guns. someone even hurn r turned in a rocket launcher. the state paid out $324,000 for the weapons, no questions asked. >>> a federal court is upholding san francisco's new nudity ban, so keep it under wraps. a judge ruled the ordinance does not violate first amendment rights. activists argued the right to strip down is a freedom of expression. the ban covers public areas across san francisco and goes into effect friday. >>> a mowmento from mickey mantdle's baseball career. just 536 so-called career rings were made. one for each of his home runs. the one in question belonged to his youngest son and it was stolen from his home in texas in 2007 and resurfaced at a pawnshop. an appraiser figured it was stolen. they followed a trail to a guy already in custody. >> that ring is going to go back to mickey's son, dan. >> as it should. >> they have agreed not to file
gabby gifford's husband, mark kelly, is also expected to testify at the hearing. >>> in trenton, new jersey, authorities are touting the haul of weapons now off the streets thanks to a gun buyback program, bringing in 2600 hand guns. someone even hurn r turned in a rocket launcher. the state paid out $324,000 for the weapons, no questions asked. >>> a federal court is upholding san francisco's new nudity ban, so keep it under wraps. a judge ruled the ordinance does not violate...
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mark kelly's testimony was very, very powerful about how he and gabrielle giffords are gun owners and believe in the importance of guns and owning guns. what i find most frustrating of the testimony from mr. lapierre and others is, there is no solution they appear willing to accept, unless it is guaranteed to stop every single incident of gun violence, and, of course, that's just not going to ever happen. but his argument about background checks and that conversation with senator durbin, for example, criminals won't go through background checks, so, therefore, we can't get rid of the background check loophole. then why do we have background checks at all? is that what the nra is arguing for? it's just very frustrating, because this is a terrible phrase, there is no silver bullet when it comes to gun violence, but there are a bunch of reasonable, rational steps, and the first two i would point to are expanding background checks and dealing with the magazine questions so the 9-year-old girl might still be alive. >> and ruth and chris, the other argument that wayne lapierre made from the
mark kelly's testimony was very, very powerful about how he and gabrielle giffords are gun owners and believe in the importance of guns and owning guns. what i find most frustrating of the testimony from mr. lapierre and others is, there is no solution they appear willing to accept, unless it is guaranteed to stop every single incident of gun violence, and, of course, that's just not going to ever happen. but his argument about background checks and that conversation with senator durbin, for...
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she and her husband retired astronaut mark kelly have formed a political action group aimed at strengthening gun laws. >>> on to the big story this morning. traffic is still a mess thanks to a major crash on the beltway early this morning. this was from about 90 minutes ago. you can see cars slowly getting by on route 50 in lanham. it involved a fire truck and an suv and sent people to the hospital. melissa malloy is live from the scene. what you can tell us? >> reporter: good morning, we're on the eighth hour of this massive cleanup. take a look behind me. you can see the inner loop sheer so snarled, people just coming through. the accident has been here since about 3:00 this morning. right now in the distance, you can see they're off-loading food from the tractor trailer. they plan to right that within the hour. traffic has just been a mess all morning. take a look from above. the camera on top of our truck shows the tractor trailer slammed on its side, teetering on the concrete jersey wall. the fire truck smashed. it was a truck full of volunteer firefighters early this morning, returning
she and her husband retired astronaut mark kelly have formed a political action group aimed at strengthening gun laws. >>> on to the big story this morning. traffic is still a mess thanks to a major crash on the beltway early this morning. this was from about 90 minutes ago. you can see cars slowly getting by on route 50 in lanham. it involved a fire truck and an suv and sent people to the hospital. melissa malloy is live from the scene. what you can tell us? >> reporter: good...
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giffords and her husband, former astronaut mark kelly have now launched their own campaign for tougher gun laws. capitalizing on the public outcry that followed december's mass shooting at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut. >> after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook, we said, this time must be different. something needs to be done. we are simply two reasonable americans who have said enough. >> ifill: but at today's hearings, national rifle association vice president wayne lapierre pushed back insisting that the real solution to gun violence is to enforce existing laws. >> unfortunately, we've seen a dramatic collapse in federal gun prosecutions in recent years. overall in 2011, federal weapons prosecutions per capita were down 35% from their peak in the previous administration. that means violent felons, gang members and the mentally ill who possess firearms are not being prosecuted. and that's unacceptable. proposing more gun control laws, while failing to enforce the thousands we already have is not a serious solution to
giffords and her husband, former astronaut mark kelly have now launched their own campaign for tougher gun laws. capitalizing on the public outcry that followed december's mass shooting at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut. >> after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook, we said, this time must be different. something needs to be done. we are simply two reasonable americans who have said enough. >> ifill: but at today's...
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. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun. if background checks are good enough for somebody who is a federal firearms licensed dealer like walmart, for instance where i just purchased a gun a couple months ago, a hunting rifle and i had to good through a background check, why isn't that good for other sales? >> my problem with background checks is you'll never get criminals to go through universal background checks. i mean, all the law abiding people. you'll create an enormous federal bureaucracy. >> we're not going to prosecute the bad guys if they do catch one. and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> that's the point. the criminals won
. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun....
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mark kelly gabby gifford's husband will introduce the bill to allow all school vs. an armed presence on campus. it could be a resource office or staffer who goes through the same training. >> a look at whose talking former secretary of state colon powell made the news when he was at the republican party. bill o'reilly wanted to find out on "the factor." >> this is a rude question. i am sorry to have to ask it. you ready? this is the scuttlebutt in washington on the republican side. your angry with the republicans a major look back at the weapons of mass destruction deal burg the e during the iraq war. i don't believe that's what's motivating you. i think you are a severe g-- si guy. this is a round that cheney and these guys didn't like that. no use for cheney no use for the war. that is a bunch of nonsense. >> i took the information we all had from the intelligence committee and when i went to the u.n. it was with the assurance of the cia the information i had was correct. mr. cheney used the information, mr. president did all of the commanders. the congress voted
mark kelly gabby gifford's husband will introduce the bill to allow all school vs. an armed presence on campus. it could be a resource office or staffer who goes through the same training. >> a look at whose talking former secretary of state colon powell made the news when he was at the republican party. bill o'reilly wanted to find out on "the factor." >> this is a rude question. i am sorry to have to ask it. you ready? this is the scuttlebutt in washington on the...
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americans are counting on you. >> giffords' husband, mark kelly, also testified. so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's definitely going to be a universal background check. i think most in law enforcement would agree that a universal background check certainly would make it more difficult for people who are trying to get weapons, keep them out of their hands. in fact from 1994 to 2009, nearly two million prohibited purchases were stopped. so we know this is going to work. obviously increasing penalties for those who try to straw purchase for someone else, i really think this will ve a tremendous impact. >> so wayne la pierre of the nra doesn't agree with you. at the hearing yesterday he said that criminals will
americans are counting on you. >> giffords' husband, mark kelly, also testified. so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's...
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giffords and her husband, former astronaut mark kelly have now launched their own campaign for tougher gun laws. capitalizing on the public outcry that followed december's mass shooting at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut. >> after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook, we said, this time must be different. something needs to be done. we are simply two reasonable americans who have said enough. >> ifill: but at today's hearings, national rifle association vice president wayne lapierre pushed back insisting that the real solution to gun violence is to enforce existing laws. >> unfortunately, we've seen a dramatic collapse in federal gun prosecutions in recent years. overall in 2011, federal weapons prosecutions per capita were down 35% from their peak in the previous administration. that means violent felons, gang members and the mentally ill who possess firearms are not being prosecuted. and that's unacceptable. proposing more gun control laws, while failing to enforce the thousands we already have is not a serious solution to
giffords and her husband, former astronaut mark kelly have now launched their own campaign for tougher gun laws. capitalizing on the public outcry that followed december's mass shooting at an elementary school in newtown, connecticut. >> after 20 kids and six of their teachers were gunned down in their classrooms at sandy hook, we said, this time must be different. something needs to be done. we are simply two reasonable americans who have said enough. >> ifill: but at today's...
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nbc's kelly o'donnell has more. >> reporter: it's a distant memory said husband mark kelly, yet gabby giffords halting words. >> too many children. >> reporter: here as a survivor of the tucson assassination attempt that left her partially blind and partially paralyzed. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous. >> reporter: giffords and kelly, both gun owners, want congress to expand background checks to gun shows and private sales to make it harder for criminals and the mentally ill to get weapons. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today, if we have stronger background checks. >> reporter: of all the gun-related ideas on the table, democrats believe universal background checks have the best chance politically. >> we'll stop them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you missed it. >> in order. >> reporter: the nra said adding new laws would hit ordinary stricken citizens not criminals. >>> this is the year for immigration reform. that's president obama's hope he laid out hi
nbc's kelly o'donnell has more. >> reporter: it's a distant memory said husband mark kelly, yet gabby giffords halting words. >> too many children. >> reporter: here as a survivor of the tucson assassination attempt that left her partially blind and partially paralyzed. >> you must act. be bold. be courageous. >> reporter: giffords and kelly, both gun owners, want congress to expand background checks to gun shows and private sales to make it harder for criminals...
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in fact her husband mark kelly broke the news of today's gunfire in phoenix to everybody at that hearing. the national rifle association's executive vice president wane lap peer also testified there. we will hear from both sides coming up inside fox report. first though a u.s. senator denies any role in a case involving hookers, a private plane, and a wealthy eye doctor. fbi agents raided that doctor's clinic last night in south florida. sea long-time friend and donor to the democratic senator bob menendez of new jersey. he is the chairman of a powerful foreign relations committee. it's still not clear whether the raid involved the senator but it would not be the first time the two men have been linked. back in november, the conservative web site the daily caller interviewed prostitutes who said the senator paid them for sex in the dominican republic. the article claimed the senator flew to that country on the doctor's private jet. late today the senator's office acknowledged that he has traveled on that jet, but says that he paid for the trips properly. his office released a statement t
in fact her husband mark kelly broke the news of today's gunfire in phoenix to everybody at that hearing. the national rifle association's executive vice president wane lap peer also testified there. we will hear from both sides coming up inside fox report. first though a u.s. senator denies any role in a case involving hookers, a private plane, and a wealthy eye doctor. fbi agents raided that doctor's clinic last night in south florida. sea long-time friend and donor to the democratic senator...
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retired astronaut mark kelly, gabrielle giffords's husband, will testify for stricter gun laws. >>> 6:46 now. new this morning, boeing reportedly knew about problems with batteries on its 787 dream liners long before the planes were grounded around the world. nippon airways says before two battery fires on board of dreamliners this month, the airline replaced ten batteries in its aircraft several months ago. the airline reported it to boeing but not to safety regulators. after the replacements were made, the airline says some of them had to be replaced again. all 787s around the world are grounded pending an investigation. >>> bad news for apple following the lawsuit with rival samsung. cnbc's jackie deangelis live with that story and more. good morning. >> good morning, aaron. a federal judge rejected apple's request to increase $1 billion in damages that it was warded. the jury found samsung infringed on some but not all of apple's smartphone and tablets. the judge said the swrir got it right and not been able to -- asked for a new trial. >>> toyota is recalling for 752,000 corollas
retired astronaut mark kelly, gabrielle giffords's husband, will testify for stricter gun laws. >>> 6:46 now. new this morning, boeing reportedly knew about problems with batteries on its 787 dream liners long before the planes were grounded around the world. nippon airways says before two battery fires on board of dreamliners this month, the airline replaced ten batteries in its aircraft several months ago. the airline reported it to boeing but not to safety regulators. after the...
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mark kelly is in "the situation room." come on in, mark. we're going to talk about what happened today and where you stand on all of this right after this commercial break. ...tax time can ofbe...well...taxing. so right now we'll give you... ...$10 off any turbo tax deluxe level software or higher! find thousands of big deals now... ...at officemax. delicious. but say i press a few out flat... add some beef sloppy joe sauce... and cheese fold it all up and boom! i just made an unbeatable unsloppy joe pillsbury grands biscuits. let the making begin. until i got a job in the big apple. becoming a fulltime indoor cat wasn't easy for atti. but he had purina cat chow indoor. he absolutely loved it. and i knew he was getting everything he needed to stay healthy indoors. and after a couple of weeks, i knew we were finally home! [ female announcer ] purina cat chow indoor. and for a delicious way to help maintain a healthy weight, try new purina cat chow healthy weight. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yea
mark kelly is in "the situation room." come on in, mark. we're going to talk about what happened today and where you stand on all of this right after this commercial break. ...tax time can ofbe...well...taxing. so right now we'll give you... ...$10 off any turbo tax deluxe level software or higher! find thousands of big deals now... ...at officemax. delicious. but say i press a few out flat... add some beef sloppy joe sauce... and cheese fold it all up and boom! i just made an...
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mark kelly yesterday. >> i'm a strong supporter of the second amendment as anybody on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> stephanie: the "washington post" did a piece perhaps the most important moment in yesterday's senate hearings when mark kelly directly confronted wayne lapierre over the shooting of his wife and another one involving dick durbin. lapierres argument was completely unmasked. he repeatedly voiced the talking point there is no need to expand the background system because criminals don't cooperate. kelly said he said his plan was to assassinate my wife. but because of the gaps in the mental health system those -- we would have likely failed a background check. if we require private sellers to complete a background check and we get those records into the system we will prevent these kinds of crimes. good for him. mark kelley again yesterday. >> he did not have access to a high capacity magazine and the same thing happened christina tailor green would be alive today.
mark kelly yesterday. >> i'm a strong supporter of the second amendment as anybody on this panel. my wife would not be sitting in this seat, she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >> stephanie: the "washington post" did a piece perhaps the most important moment in yesterday's senate hearings when mark kelly directly confronted wayne lapierre over the shooting of his wife and another one involving dick durbin. lapierres argument was...
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kelly. it was a powerful call for congressional action. giffords demanded lawmakers do something, despite the opposition. >> too many children are dying. too many children. it will be hard. but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> and then, kelly called for better background checks for all gun sales. wayne lapierre of the national rifle association says background checks aren't the answer because criminals buying guns don't use them. >>> there's new momentum towards immigration reform. a bipartisan group from the house is working on legislation similar to proposals by senate negotiators and president obama. the groundbreaking measure could be unveiled within a matter of days. president obama says he would like the whole process wrapped up in six months. >> it's been too long since we reformed the system. and we're starting to see a bipartisan consensus build around this. >> florida lawmaker mario diaz has seen a sea change on the issue on b
kelly. it was a powerful call for congressional action. giffords demanded lawmakers do something, despite the opposition. >> too many children are dying. too many children. it will be hard. but the time is now. you must act. be bold, be courageous. americans are counting on you. >> and then, kelly called for better background checks for all gun sales. wayne lapierre of the national rifle association says background checks aren't the answer because criminals buying guns don't use...
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her husband, captain mark kelly, also testified. kelly's message, demanding change is not the same as taking away people's guns. >> we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up, just like gabby would never relinquish her gun, and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. >> giffords and kelly are pleading on behalf of common sense here. this is why gun safety opponents like the nra's wayne lapierre need to create multiple straw men instead of talking about the facts. the gun lobby will do anything to keep all guns free from restrictions. fewer restrictions means more sales, which means more money for gunmakers and manufacturers and guys like wayne lapierre. >> if you try to do this universal background check, which sounds whatever, it ends up being a universal federal nightmare imposed upon law-abiding people all over this country. criminals will ignore it. so what is the point of the whole thing? >> this is lapierre's newest argument. a universal background check won't do anything, h
her husband, captain mark kelly, also testified. kelly's message, demanding change is not the same as taking away people's guns. >> we take that right very seriously, and we would never, ever give it up, just like gabby would never relinquish her gun, and i would never relinquish mine. but rights demand responsibility. >> giffords and kelly are pleading on behalf of common sense here. this is why gun safety opponents like the nra's wayne lapierre need to create multiple straw men...
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among the witnesses testifying are wayne lapierre of the nra and captain mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords, a victim of gun violence. and is expected to speak sass well. >>> new orleans is beefing up security ahead of sunday's big game. 1300 federal agents and 3600 extra state troopers have been added. today, nfl officials will hold a news conference with homeland security secretary janet napolitano. and happy birthday to marcus mumford of mumford and sons. he tushs 26 today. old man. >>> all day long you can stay on top of the very latest developments on those stories and the best political analysis on msnbc. and tonight, be sure to watch "nbc nightly news" with brian williams. >>> and, finally, here's a look at what's coming up later this morning on the "today" show. microsoft founder bill gates opens up about his charity, family and the future. and liza minnelli and cast of cabaret reunite to celebrate the film's 40th anniversary. >>> now keep it on this channel for continuing local news, sports and more. i'm richard lui along with bill karins. thanks for watching "early today.
among the witnesses testifying are wayne lapierre of the nra and captain mark kelly, the husband of gabby giffords, a victim of gun violence. and is expected to speak sass well. >>> new orleans is beefing up security ahead of sunday's big game. 1300 federal agents and 3600 extra state troopers have been added. today, nfl officials will hold a news conference with homeland security secretary janet napolitano. and happy birthday to marcus mumford of mumford and sons. he tushs 26 today....
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mark kelly will argue that an assault rifle like the one used to wound his wife and kill others should be banned from the streets. the policies are complicated. even some of the most liberal are supporters of gun rights including patrick leahy. harry reid of nevada was noncommit tall when he asked about the assault weapons ban intro dusd by his colleague dianne feinstein. any move to restrict gun ownership will be met with fierce opposition from the right. >> gun violence is not a disease. and lawful gun ownership is not a disease. it is a constitutionally protected individual right. >> gun laws here in the district of columbia are pretty strict but they're pushing for the committee to work with law enforcement so at the next hearing they can bring in some semiautomatic weapons. the point they want to make, they say, is these weapons in the hands of law-abiding citizens are perfectly same. charlie and norah? >> nancy, thanks. >>> he orange rally spoke with mark kelly and gabrielle giffor giffords about gun control. good morning. >> good morning. >> suppose you had something to do about
mark kelly will argue that an assault rifle like the one used to wound his wife and kill others should be banned from the streets. the policies are complicated. even some of the most liberal are supporters of gun rights including patrick leahy. harry reid of nevada was noncommit tall when he asked about the assault weapons ban intro dusd by his colleague dianne feinstein. any move to restrict gun ownership will be met with fierce opposition from the right. >> gun violence is not a...
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she and her husband, mark kelly, the astronaut. and obviously they'll get coverage wherever they go. so we don't think gun legislation will pass, but we can see this debate will continue. it will be loud and support will build. >> and let's get to the republican party's future yesterday. last night at the republican national committee meeting, louisiana governor bobby jindal had this advice for his party. >> we have to stop being stupid party. and i'm serious. it's time for a new republican party that talks like adults. it's time for us to articulate our plans and visions for america in real terms. no secret we lad a number of republicans that damaged the brand with offensive and bizarre comments. i'm here to say we've had enough of that. >> so jindal is potential 12016 contender, does he have enough influence in his party to make any of these a reality? >> he's definitely going to push for them. this is a time when republicans are looking for a leader. he's chairman of the republican governors association. he got a lot of pick up
she and her husband, mark kelly, the astronaut. and obviously they'll get coverage wherever they go. so we don't think gun legislation will pass, but we can see this debate will continue. it will be loud and support will build. >> and let's get to the republican party's future yesterday. last night at the republican national committee meeting, louisiana governor bobby jindal had this advice for his party. >> we have to stop being stupid party. and i'm serious. it's time for a new...
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kelly. he told the panel cushing gun violence is a complex problem. but he says that is no excuse for inaction. >> when dangerous people get dangerous guns we are all the more vulnerable. dangerous people with weapons specifically designed to inflict maximum lethality upon others have turned every single corner of our society into places of carnage and gross human loss. jon: our next guest is the committee's ranking republican. he agrees we need some common sense reform but warns of the need to proceed with caution. >> we should not rush to pass legislation that will not reduce mass killings. banning guns based on their appearance does not make sense. the 1994 assault weapons bandied not stop columbine. the justice department found the ban ineffective. scholars have indicated that refining or expanding such legislation will not cut gun violence. jon: iowa senator chuck grassley joins us now live. senator, of the testimony you've heard so far today, what has had the most impact on you? >> wel
kelly. he told the panel cushing gun violence is a complex problem. but he says that is no excuse for inaction. >> when dangerous people get dangerous guns we are all the more vulnerable. dangerous people with weapons specifically designed to inflict maximum lethality upon others have turned every single corner of our society into places of carnage and gross human loss. jon: our next guest is the committee's ranking republican. he agrees we need some common sense reform but warns of the...
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kelly just disagree with mark kelly the fact of the matter is this whether you have a five seven fifteen he would have pulled off at least five of those shots now with odds going to be that he might have hit five for five three four five we don't know but for the comments that i gave the believe that they cut bait i am just another magazine size and that's going to change any deaths it's just not not statistical so i think if you look for example new york city police if i remember correctly they typically have fifteen rounds in there's i mean there's nothing magic but there's they have fifteen rounds which seems to say well why do some people need fifteen and other people need ten and who's a better marksman such because i'll tell you those cops but i'll tell you this i think the trend is right now those of you who are pushing to say well let's knock it down to ten if you got that then you'd say let's knock it down to seven then five business or related to seven or nine. barney fife used to keep in his pocket in the andy griffith show works quite well for him ok senator durbin asked a lo
kelly just disagree with mark kelly the fact of the matter is this whether you have a five seven fifteen he would have pulled off at least five of those shots now with odds going to be that he might have hit five for five three four five we don't know but for the comments that i gave the believe that they cut bait i am just another magazine size and that's going to change any deaths it's just not not statistical so i think if you look for example new york city police if i remember correctly...
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kelly o'donnell has more. >> reporter: per gift of speech is a distance memory said her husband mark kelly, yet, gabby giffords halting words. >> too many children. >> reporter: here as a survivor of the tucson assassination attempt which left her partially blind and partially paralyzed. >> you must act, be bold, be courageous. >> reporter: they are both gun owners and they want positive expand sales to make it harder for criminals and the mentally im to get weapons. >> my wife would not be sitting in this seat. she would not have been sitting here today if we had stronger background checks. >>> of all the gun related ideas on the table, democrats believe universal background checks has the best chance politically. >> stop them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. and i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> reporter: the nra says adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens, not criminals. >> that was kelly o'donnell. >>> this is the year for immigration reform that, is president obama's hope. he laid out his platform and timetable. >>> we kno
kelly o'donnell has more. >> reporter: per gift of speech is a distance memory said her husband mark kelly, yet, gabby giffords halting words. >> too many children. >> reporter: here as a survivor of the tucson assassination attempt which left her partially blind and partially paralyzed. >> you must act, be bold, be courageous. >> reporter: they are both gun owners and they want positive expand sales to make it harder for criminals and the mentally im to get...